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what might rebekah brooks have meant wh she said that? yoain't seen nothing yet, there's worse to come. >> she said she told the "news of the world" newsroom even as she bade them farewell and said i'm sure we've all seen performances like this, you know this hurts me more than it hurts you, she said, as she ended the careers of 280 journalists and sailed off merrily orrobably not merly on her way. we don't know what she meant but she did say in that speech on saturday evening at the "news of the world" as i recall "there's worse to come, there are dark days ahead." now maybe she was referring to some of the things we've mean? the days since then having to do with bribery of the policend the invasion of the queen's security and privacy. but i suspect that there is worse than that. we've heard talk about burglaries and break-ins. alan has just mentione the association with known criminal elements and in one case a murderer. you begin to wonder where's the bottom of this pit? it may be some way deeper than we have seen yet. >> and part of t
what might rebekah brooks have meant wh she said that? yoain't seen nothing yet, there's worse to come. >> she said she told the "news of the world" newsroom even as she bade them farewell and said i'm sure we've all seen performances like this, you know this hurts me more than it hurts you, she said, as she ended the careers of 280 journalists and sailed off merrily orrobably not merly on her way. we don't know what she meant but she did say in that speech on saturday evening...
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only a week or so ago rupert murdoch said he had total confidence in rebekah brooks. the first thing he did when he flew into london to try and sort this crisis out was stage a photo opportunity with his arm around rebekah, asked what his first priority was on landing in london. he pointed to her and said this one. >> rose: so why did she resign? >> i think becausehe attempts to take the pressure off so far had failed. the closure of the news of the world is dramatic and expensive move. this paper had bn going for 160 plus years. rupert murdoch bought it2 years ago it was his big entry on to the world stage after leaving australia. >> rose: the largest circulating paper in london. >> 2.3--.7 million a day, used to sell 6 to milon in its glory days. so this is an extraordinary, papers don't shut down overnight like that either. in these troubled times. he h done that he pulled the bid for sky. he had agreed after changg his mind on thursday to pear before parliament. none of those things had takethe pssure o. the reason that he had kep rebekah brooks right by his side
only a week or so ago rupert murdoch said he had total confidence in rebekah brooks. the first thing he did when he flew into london to try and sort this crisis out was stage a photo opportunity with his arm around rebekah, asked what his first priority was on landing in london. he pointed to her and said this one. >> rose: so why did she resign? >> i think becausehe attempts to take the pressure off so far had failed. the closure of the news of the world is dramatic and expensive...
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brooks said she only recently learned that the phone of the young murder victim, milly dowler, had been targeted. >> it seems incredible that you, as the editor, were so unaware of such fundamental issues to do with this investigation. >> i just.. i think... in some ways, just the opposite-- i don't know anyone in their right mind who would authorize, know, sanction, approve of anyone listening to the voice mails of milly dowler in those circumstances. >> brown: brooks was arrested on sunday, and she repeatedly said today there were things she could not discuss due to the ongoing investigation. but she did say she has lasting regrets that everything did not come out long ago. >> of course, i have regrets. i mean, the idea that milly dowler's phone was accessed by someone being paid by n.o.t.w., or worse, authorized by someone at n.o.t.w., is abhorrent to me, as it is to everyone in this room. my ultimate regret that the speed in which we found out has been too slow. >> brown: like the murdochs, brooks, too, was questioned about her ties to prime ministers-- past and present-- amid charg
brooks said she only recently learned that the phone of the young murder victim, milly dowler, had been targeted. >> it seems incredible that you, as the editor, were so unaware of such fundamental issues to do with this investigation. >> i just.. i think... in some ways, just the opposite-- i don't know anyone in their right mind who would authorize, know, sanction, approve of anyone listening to the voice mails of milly dowler in those circumstances. >> brown: brooks was...
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do you regret closing the "news of the world" to try and save rebekah brooks? in hindsight do you wish you'd accepted her resignation to start with, in order that that paper with a fine tradition could probably continue and all of the people who are now out of work could still be in work? >> i regret very much the fate of people who will not be able to find work. the two decisions were totally unrelated. absolutely and totally unrelated. >> so when you came into the u.k. and said your priority was rebekah brooks -- >> i'm not sure i did say that. i was quoted as saying that. i walked outside my flat and had about 20 microphones stuck in my mouth so i'm not sure what i said. >> so you were misquoted? >> i'm not saying that. i just don't remember. >> i'm sorry, mr. chairman. mr. davies, it's important that the closure of a newspaper with a history of 160 some odd years history is something that is a grave thing and something that is a serious matter of regret for us, for the company. but much more serious than that is the seriousness of really the violation of pr
do you regret closing the "news of the world" to try and save rebekah brooks? in hindsight do you wish you'd accepted her resignation to start with, in order that that paper with a fine tradition could probably continue and all of the people who are now out of work could still be in work? >> i regret very much the fate of people who will not be able to find work. the two decisions were totally unrelated. absolutely and totally unrelated. >> so when you came into the u.k....
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murdoch's sce and particularly the pie moment it was a bit of an anticlimax, rebecca brooks. she got off extraordinary lightly this wasn't the forensic grilling you may get in a senate committee. it was fairly sloppy quite a lot of time. she looked pretty awful i thought and it was put in a pretty controlled performance i think almost sort of playing for the sympathy vote a bit but just like james murdoc murdoch, the of her position was i didn't know about this and the mps simply didn't have the resources or information to cross-examine her lightly enough to unpick her story and she also was able to say look i've bee arrest and being investigated i can't answer difficult questions. >> she had a side door is that was not available to the murdoches because of this arrest which none us expected she went in forrg she could go out the side door of saying she was subject to arrest and the band width of what she could say wa narrow. >> charlie: would have been better had they not arrested her? >> by a million miles. >> those of us that are fans of senate questions is when you're und
murdoch's sce and particularly the pie moment it was a bit of an anticlimax, rebecca brooks. she got off extraordinary lightly this wasn't the forensic grilling you may get in a senate committee. it was fairly sloppy quite a lot of time. she looked pretty awful i thought and it was put in a pretty controlled performance i think almost sort of playing for the sympathy vote a bit but just like james murdoc murdoch, the of her position was i didn't know about this and the mps simply didn't have...
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we are still waiting to hear from rebekah brooks. if you see it he was trying to get a pie in the face of rupert murdoch. if we can get that shot back up again, you can see in niz left hand a tin -- and see if we can get that shot back up. it looks like he had a tin in his left hand a cream pie that he was going to smash in the face of rupert murdoch during these hearings. the man was quickly taken away in handcuffs. you saw the images of him outside he had something all over his face. wendy dang in the pink jumping up. she is a volleyball player. that looks like a spike. she's known to be a fan of volleyball. anyway, you can see the pie right there trying to get in the face of rupert murdoch. the woman in the gray i'm not sure who she is. she was sitting to the left op of wendy dang. michelle is with us now. is this ovenly some type of protesters coming in to disrupt this and create a true embarrassment to rupert murdoch by delivering a pie in the face? >> we guess. we're basically looking at the exact same pictures that you are. an
we are still waiting to hear from rebekah brooks. if you see it he was trying to get a pie in the face of rupert murdoch. if we can get that shot back up again, you can see in niz left hand a tin -- and see if we can get that shot back up. it looks like he had a tin in his left hand a cream pie that he was going to smash in the face of rupert murdoch during these hearings. the man was quickly taken away in handcuffs. you saw the images of him outside he had something all over his face. wendy...
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he was not in day-to-day control. >> was rebekah brooks in day-to- day control? >> yes. >> why is she still being backed when it is clear that legal opinion will come to see what kind of responsibility, she was the editor when the phone was being attacked. >> i understand what happened. what month ofw was doing carrying on supporting her. >> she is innocent of the charges against her. what damage ultimately happens to the wider entire - -empire? >> i don't know. this global scandal, murdoch is one of the best things that ever happened to this kind of journalism. without murdoch, there were probably be no "guardian," "independent," or competition for you at the bbc. >> said that is a perfectly fair point. he loves newspapers. the thing that we should talk about is what has happened over the past two years. for the last two years, this company has been denying it. they went to parliament. they have misled everyone. they're still paying the person knows the truth. they have been high resistance to all of the lawsuits. they have been desperate to get the story out an
he was not in day-to-day control. >> was rebekah brooks in day-to- day control? >> yes. >> why is she still being backed when it is clear that legal opinion will come to see what kind of responsibility, she was the editor when the phone was being attacked. >> i understand what happened. what month ofw was doing carrying on supporting her. >> she is innocent of the charges against her. what damage ultimately happens to the wider entire - -empire? >> i don't...
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newspapers. >> [unintelligible] rebekah brooks? >> i forget, but i expect that with my son we were both in daily contact. >> [unintelligible] >> no. >> you were not informed? >> no. >> at no point were you aware that they were being paid payments? >> no. >> the u.s. hockey committee, if there was a victim of the crime, having to address the matter of mr. taylor in some detail? >> my father became aware, after the settlement was made, in 2009, after the confidential settlement had become public and the newspaper reported afterwards. the understanding was that the settlement out of court was a civil claim, something of that nature we did not believe that a company our size, with responsible executives in the territory of the country, would be authorized to make. my father is the glow will chief executive. >> mr. murdoch, when you found out that criminality was in debt met at open quote news of the world close "? -- "news of the world"? >> [unintelligible] justice taking place now. it has been discouraged. we were shocked, appalled, a
newspapers. >> [unintelligible] rebekah brooks? >> i forget, but i expect that with my son we were both in daily contact. >> [unintelligible] >> no. >> you were not informed? >> no. >> at no point were you aware that they were being paid payments? >> no. >> the u.s. hockey committee, if there was a victim of the crime, having to address the matter of mr. taylor in some detail? >> my father became aware, after the settlement was made,...
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in the meantime we're waiting for rebekah brooks to give evidence. here with our editor, adam bolson before rebekah brooks comes in one word about the security breach. a shocking moment this afternoon. >> clearly, rupert is an old man and therefore, any sort of assault even though it was kind of a comedy assault apparently about this come need wran -- comedian, calls himself johnny marbles is serious matter. there were no weapons there because you have to get searched getting into these rooms even if that was the intent. frankly i didn't think that either of the two murdoches giving evidence seemed particularly shaken by the experience. and, you know, although it is dramatic i suspect it will be will testimony in the long run will be important. one aspect, anna, worth mentioning, you may remember rupert murdoch said i think it was rupert murdoch rather than james, said les hinton, the then boss of "news international" have been tofked along with colin miler, last editor of "the news of the world" to see if there was anymore mess around the hacking an
in the meantime we're waiting for rebekah brooks to give evidence. here with our editor, adam bolson before rebekah brooks comes in one word about the security breach. a shocking moment this afternoon. >> clearly, rupert is an old man and therefore, any sort of assault even though it was kind of a comedy assault apparently about this come need wran -- comedian, calls himself johnny marbles is serious matter. there were no weapons there because you have to get searched getting into these...
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that will be with rebekah brooks. we expect rupert murdoch there, quite clear, saying phone hacking is wrong, paying police officers is wrong, has no part in news international, no part in news corp, and saying there will be no excuses. our colleague looks at these things from a rounded point of view, did the murdochs do what they needed to do to put a bit of shine back on the company, or not? >> i think, richard, if you look at all the comments they made over the course of the past three hours, what comes out loud and clear to me are two executives who appear profoundly out of touch. some of the statements that we heard earlier, i made lots of notes as you can imagine, all news organizations use private investigators, as if that legitimizes the practice. i trusted people. excuse me, the chief executive of a company is responsible. so mr. murdochs, both, need to own what has happened in their organization. the culture is clearly broken. there are so many other comments like that. >> right. let's go round, we will stay
that will be with rebekah brooks. we expect rupert murdoch there, quite clear, saying phone hacking is wrong, paying police officers is wrong, has no part in news international, no part in news corp, and saying there will be no excuses. our colleague looks at these things from a rounded point of view, did the murdochs do what they needed to do to put a bit of shine back on the company, or not? >> i think, richard, if you look at all the comments they made over the course of the past three...
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affair and the wisdom of employing him the media guru we've been arrested and this friendship with brooks we just talked about. and there where he's part of what's called the chipping camden set which is a rule part of britain he lives down there at the weekend rebecca brooks lives down there sir and columnist lived down there and the whole set you can to make socially that set was a different set when labor in power would truly blair but all of it is too cosy and too comfortable if you don't have a real democracy you have to have a separation between the press surely and indeed the political establishment and the government of the day you also need to have separation between the judiciary and those two areas in britain and the united kingdom they've become too close over the last thirteen or fourteen years and i believe that last may not all unary people in britain their views have not really be represented either in the newspapers or in the political arena that's bad for democracy so david cameron should start investigating himself that's far as i'm concerned how would your employer a m
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rebekah brooks may be unable to shed light on what really happened. john prescott think rupert murdoch's got a lot to answer for. >> everybody is scared to do death that he doesn't like so he's the spider in the middle of the when and it's about time we took him on. >> reporter: the chairman in charge of the xwriling is keen to hear why the company previously told him phone hacking was just the work of a rogue reporter, then later admitted that wasn't true. >> we took evidence from senior executives of news international and rupert murdoch has publicly stated parliament was misled. parliament takes that very seriously and so we want to ask him why he has discovered that we have been misled, who misled us and how long he's known about that. >> reporter: for rupert murdoch, this isn't a court appearance but it may feel like he's on trial. for years, rupert murdoch has been behind numerous cruel tabloid headlines. now suddenly he's on the front page himself, and that's a pretty awkward place for a press baron to be, suddenly the target of what they call
rebekah brooks may be unable to shed light on what really happened. john prescott think rupert murdoch's got a lot to answer for. >> everybody is scared to do death that he doesn't like so he's the spider in the middle of the when and it's about time we took him on. >> reporter: the chairman in charge of the xwriling is keen to hear why the company previously told him phone hacking was just the work of a rogue reporter, then later admitted that wasn't true. >> we took evidence...
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the president of the united states is saying that is what he wants to do. >> do you agree with david brooks that this group of republicans have no moral theory or were the of the name? >> the extremes don't, but john boehner actually, who often touts the views of the nuts he ads- [laughter] --a responsible bguy >> can i get a word in here? >> and then pull it off. "i cannot control them, they are crazy, they are crazy," it is up valuable bargaining chip for him. >> i like being on a show where ad hominems cannot use. liberals are always thought about why the's conservatives. everybody today worships ronald reagan. i lived in the ronald reagan era. liberals called him an amiable dunce asset to -- and a threat to civilization. a sickly, on the question of the 14th amendment, the -- secondly, on the question of the 14th amendment, it would end up under the jurisdiction of john roberts. >> we've been talking about this stuff or 20 years, the need to fix entitlements. everybody says you have to do somethin nobody does anything, and here we are. >> think this is the most historic weekend of the o
the president of the united states is saying that is what he wants to do. >> do you agree with david brooks that this group of republicans have no moral theory or were the of the name? >> the extremes don't, but john boehner actually, who often touts the views of the nuts he ads- [laughter] --a responsible bguy >> can i get a word in here? >> and then pull it off. "i cannot control them, they are crazy, they are crazy," it is up valuable bargaining chip for...
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brooks and her knowledge of those things has been clear. nonetheless those have been accepted, but it's important on the basis there is no evidence today that i have seen or have any knowledge of this there was any impropriety by them. >> the different, sir. you have repeatedly stated that news corporation has zero tolerance, is the right? >> yes. >> october, 2010, did you still believe it to be true when you made your speech and said what may be clear, we were to vigorously pursue the trade we will not tolerate wrongdoing? >> yes. >> if you are not lining then, somebody was lobbying to you, who was it? >> i don't know. that is what the police are investigating. espinel but he acknowledged that you were misled? >> very. >> let's take you back to 2003. were you aware that in march rebekah to brooks gave information to the committee? >> i am now aware of that. i wasn't aware of the time. i was also aware that she amended that considerably quickly afterwards. >> i think she amended it seven or eight years afterwards. did you or anyone else at
brooks and her knowledge of those things has been clear. nonetheless those have been accepted, but it's important on the basis there is no evidence today that i have seen or have any knowledge of this there was any impropriety by them. >> the different, sir. you have repeatedly stated that news corporation has zero tolerance, is the right? >> yes. >> october, 2010, did you still believe it to be true when you made your speech and said what may be clear, we were to vigorously...
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news corp chief, ruprd murdoch, his son and former chief executive, rebekah brooks, will face some tough questioning, appearing before lawmakers this morning, this as the developments in the growing phone hacking scandal seem to be changing by the hour. nbc's jim maceda is live for us in london outside parliment with details. jim, good morning. >> good morning, lynn. well all eyes will definitely be on a small room inside that building behind me, the mother of parliament it's called here. just big enough for 40 or so spectators, but there will be overflow rooms with television sets. this is really must-see tv today in great britain and for many other places. certainly the united states, which is why there's so much media here today as well. as one british politician put it, it's the three musketeers of the murdoch media empire and the phone-hacking scandal that will appear here later today. they'll be grilled by ten members of a select committee. it doesn't sound like much, it's the committee for culture and media. these hearings will only last an hour for rupert and his 38-year-old son,
news corp chief, ruprd murdoch, his son and former chief executive, rebekah brooks, will face some tough questioning, appearing before lawmakers this morning, this as the developments in the growing phone hacking scandal seem to be changing by the hour. nbc's jim maceda is live for us in london outside parliment with details. jim, good morning. >> good morning, lynn. well all eyes will definitely be on a small room inside that building behind me, the mother of parliament it's called here....
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it is this sort of story that rebekah brooks would have loved. now the ex chief executive of followed the murdoch's into the committee room and matched their contrition. >> how could you be so unaware of such fundamental issues? >> in some ways, i think the opposite. i don't know anyone in their right mind who would authorize or sanction approval of anyone listening to the voice mail of milly dowler. i don't know anyone who would think that was a right and proper thing to do. >> someone did it and someone approved it and someone covered it up. when rupert murdoch swept out of westminster, we were no closer to knowing who. we do know that this is a day he did not enjoy. >> as you have heard, the revelations about milly dowler's phone are what brought the scandal to a whole new level. many of the details were first revealed in "the guardian," newspaper. tonight, i spoke with the deputy editor and asked him if he believed that the murdoch's did not know about the phone hacking. >> this is very difficult to say. rupert murdoch's performance was reall
it is this sort of story that rebekah brooks would have loved. now the ex chief executive of followed the murdoch's into the committee room and matched their contrition. >> how could you be so unaware of such fundamental issues? >> in some ways, i think the opposite. i don't know anyone in their right mind who would authorize or sanction approval of anyone listening to the voice mail of milly dowler. i don't know anyone who would think that was a right and proper thing to do....
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. >> all this puts more pressure on the prime minister's friend rebecca brooks. she is the chief executive of news international. she was also the editor of the news of the world when the girl went missing. she, like other former executives at the paper, had said that she did not know about the actions of a few reporters. news international argues she is shocked as everyone else. but they are also making the claims she does not intend to resign. >> she has been clear today that that is what she will not do. this happened in 2002. she is chief executive of a company in 2011. she is absolutely determined to get to the bottom of this issue. >> the political heat has been turned up on the murdoch's news empire. the house of commons will debate the latest allegations on wednesday. opposition politicians say they want a full inquiry. they think rebecca brooks should go. >> it was not a rogue reporter. it was not one individual. this is a systematic series of things that happened. what i want from equities -- executives is people to start taking responsibility. >> it is
. >> all this puts more pressure on the prime minister's friend rebecca brooks. she is the chief executive of news international. she was also the editor of the news of the world when the girl went missing. she, like other former executives at the paper, had said that she did not know about the actions of a few reporters. news international argues she is shocked as everyone else. but they are also making the claims she does not intend to resign. >> she has been clear today that that...
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as for rebekah brooks, we ask about what she told the mps. the mp whose committee will be asking the question was optimistic. >> i hope the committee will want to hear the truth. this is not about a lynch mob or an opportunity. >> the lawyer representing the family of the girl his phone was tapped as his doubts. >> we will be skeptical. we will see the three monkeys. they will say -- no one was speaking about this. >> in an interview, rupert murdoch insisted that his company had handled the crisis extremely well and he denied he would sell his newspapers. he said that he would work to establish his integrity. this scene is set for an extraordinary confrontation between parliament and the press. a chance for parliament to discuss these issues. >> austerity is the word and condition that many europeans have been forced to adopt even though it sparked massive protests. on thursday, the senate passed their own cost-cutting package which comes after investors started to worry that the third largest economy could be the next to go into the debt cri
as for rebekah brooks, we ask about what she told the mps. the mp whose committee will be asking the question was optimistic. >> i hope the committee will want to hear the truth. this is not about a lynch mob or an opportunity. >> the lawyer representing the family of the girl his phone was tapped as his doubts. >> we will be skeptical. we will see the three monkeys. they will say -- no one was speaking about this. >> in an interview, rupert murdoch insisted that his...
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brooks or mr. hinton, or any of those executives had knowledge of that and their assertions, certainly mrs. brooks and assertions to me of her knowledge of those things has been -- has been clear. nonetheless, those resignations have been accepted. but it's important to know on the basis that there is no evidence today that i have seen or that i have any knowledge of, that there was any impriority by them. >> turn to tom watson. >> mr. murdoch sr., good afternoon, sir. you have repeatedly stated that news corp has a zero tolerance of wrongdoing by employees. is that right? >> yes. >> in october 2010, did you still believe it to be true when you made your speech and you said, let me be clear, we will be vig -- we will vigorously pursue the truth and we will not tolerate wrongdoing? >> yes. >> so if you were not lying then, somebody lied to you, who was it? >> i don't know. that is what the police are investigating and we are helping them with. >> but you acknowledge that you were misled? >> clearly.
brooks or mr. hinton, or any of those executives had knowledge of that and their assertions, certainly mrs. brooks and assertions to me of her knowledge of those things has been -- has been clear. nonetheless, those resignations have been accepted. but it's important to know on the basis that there is no evidence today that i have seen or that i have any knowledge of, that there was any impriority by them. >> turn to tom watson. >> mr. murdoch sr., good afternoon, sir. you have...
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brooks testifying with andy coulson. coulson went on to become david cameron's spokesman and has since resigned and has been arrested in the scandal. >> can i ask, the one element if you ever pay the bliss for information? >> we have paid police for information in the past, and it's been -- >> will you do it in the put? >> it depends on -- >> within the code and within the law, there is a clear public interest and the same holds for private detectives, subterfuge. >> it's illegal for police officers to receive payments. >> no, no, no. i just said within the law. >> this is not only the beginning of the scandal. it's the beginning of the news corporation's attempts at damage control. coulson stepping in to blunt brooks' answers. i spoke with the other british whistleblower about the death of sean hoare and about the spread of allegations of illegal practices up the chain of command at news corp. here are the other stories we're digging into tonight, first. >>> deadline, do they know what the word means in washington? two
brooks testifying with andy coulson. coulson went on to become david cameron's spokesman and has since resigned and has been arrested in the scandal. >> can i ask, the one element if you ever pay the bliss for information? >> we have paid police for information in the past, and it's been -- >> will you do it in the put? >> it depends on -- >> within the code and within the law, there is a clear public interest and the same holds for private detectives, subterfuge....
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back to david brooks for a second. david brooks basically is saying that for republicans not to take a deal-- that you seem to believe in yourself-- if they don't do that, then they will be blamed for the crisis. >> rose: charlie, i think it's what... the thing that matters in that statement is what are the details of the deal? and we have not heard the details of the deal that seemo be satisfactory t most republicans yet. if, in fact, you want to set it up where you eliminate a large percentage of tax expenditures and tax credit-- let's say 50% or 60% of them-- and lower rates thereby getting an economic boom that would markedly increase revenues to the government and lower thdebt that's totally different. and with that a siificant 3.5% or 4.5 $trillion in expenditure cuts i think republicans would jump at that in a minute. the question i is can you do that in a timing where you've got them both locked in? that's where the lack of trust is not evident between the two parties and the shame of that is because of that la
back to david brooks for a second. david brooks basically is saying that for republicans not to take a deal-- that you seem to believe in yourself-- if they don't do that, then they will be blamed for the crisis. >> rose: charlie, i think it's what... the thing that matters in that statement is what are the details of the deal? and we have not heard the details of the deal that seemo be satisfactory t most republicans yet. if, in fact, you want to set it up where you eliminate a large...
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remember, rebekah brooks who supervised the "news of the world," she's currently under arrest. so, rupert murdoch couldn't be in the business of acknowledging what seemed fairly obvious with all due respect to our colleague, piers. thises wasn't a question of not supervising the newspaper, this was not reading the newspaper. i mean, it was obvious if you read "news of the world" that they were in people's voice mail. i mean, so the idea that murdoch, sr., murdoch jr., didn't know that they were reading people's voice mails, much less rebekah brooks seems pretty preposterous to me. >> joanne, where do you see this heading? obviously you have the parliamentary inquiry and legal inqui inquiry, but in terms of the legacy of a proud man, you mentioned his aperns ppearance davos and he takes great pride in his empire, what has it done to the legacy of rupert murdoch? >> i think do you know what, one of the most key things he said the entire day was when he said, no, i will not resign because i'm the one that is best prepared to clean this up. and i think that he really feels he did b
remember, rebekah brooks who supervised the "news of the world," she's currently under arrest. so, rupert murdoch couldn't be in the business of acknowledging what seemed fairly obvious with all due respect to our colleague, piers. thises wasn't a question of not supervising the newspaper, this was not reading the newspaper. i mean, it was obvious if you read "news of the world" that they were in people's voice mail. i mean, so the idea that murdoch, sr., murdoch jr., didn't...
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rebecca brooks was the editor of news of the world from 2000 to 2003. after brooks was promoted, andy colson became ceo of news of the world. he became communications director for british prime minister david cameron. colson was arrested last week, rebecca brooks was arrested yesterday. the scandal is spreading beyond murdock's media empire. paul stevenson resigned yesterd yesterday. his assistant commissioner john yates resigned today. the initial investigation into the scandal was botched. >>> rupert murdock, james murdock and rebecca brooks were all scheduled to testify before parliament tomorrow morning. cnn will cover their testimony live. >>> and it's time now for a cnn political update and someone else is set to take the republican pledge in the deficit debate. cnn deputy political director paul steinhauser joining us from washington. who's signing on now? >> michele bachmann for minnesota, she becames the latest of these republican candidates to do this, just about all of them have signed this pledge. she's going to sign them in south carolina,
rebecca brooks was the editor of news of the world from 2000 to 2003. after brooks was promoted, andy colson became ceo of news of the world. he became communications director for british prime minister david cameron. colson was arrested last week, rebecca brooks was arrested yesterday. the scandal is spreading beyond murdock's media empire. paul stevenson resigned yesterd yesterday. his assistant commissioner john yates resigned today. the initial investigation into the scandal was botched....
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on the case of rebecca brooks, i don't think it is right for the prime minister to start picking and choosing who should run and who should not run media organizations. it has been reported that she offered her resignation over this. before i take your questions, let me say this. for people watching this scandal unfolded, there is something disturbing about what they see. just think about who they put their trust in. the politicians that represent them, and all of them -- a political system that people think is on their side and a press that is yet free and vigorous and holds those in power to drive them completely mad. we need a free press that is all so clean and trustworthy. that is what people want, that is not what i want. -- and that is what i want. >> we have asked him many times about your decision to appoint an be as your main communications man. you said that he resigned and paid the price. given that hundreds of people lost their jobs yesterday, given that the editor said that he warned you of what they might have had and you would have known what would have happened under
on the case of rebecca brooks, i don't think it is right for the prime minister to start picking and choosing who should run and who should not run media organizations. it has been reported that she offered her resignation over this. before i take your questions, let me say this. for people watching this scandal unfolded, there is something disturbing about what they see. just think about who they put their trust in. the politicians that represent them, and all of them -- a political system...
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martha: rebekah brooks wrapping up her testimony after speaking for an hour 45 minutes. she answered questions. she is the former chief executive of "news of the world." she was speak being her role and what she understood and what she knew and when with regard to the phone hacking investigation that has been shake up the united kingdom. welcome to "america live." i'm martha maccallum in for megyn kelly. we just watched three hours of testimony today. rupert murdoch along with his son james and miss brooks, they all answered questions about how reporters for the news of the world * publication hacked phones and paid police to get information. this is an ongoing investigation and as miss brooks just said not all of the facts are out there in an accurate way. the hearing broke up at one point during mr. murdoch's testimony when a protester ran towards him and threw what's believed to be a pie in the face. mr. murdoch's wife wendy, she threw in a punch to defend this man who we understand is a 26-year-old comedian in the u.k. amy kellogg has been tracking this hearing. she
martha: rebekah brooks wrapping up her testimony after speaking for an hour 45 minutes. she answered questions. she is the former chief executive of "news of the world." she was speak being her role and what she understood and what she knew and when with regard to the phone hacking investigation that has been shake up the united kingdom. welcome to "america live." i'm martha maccallum in for megyn kelly. we just watched three hours of testimony today. rupert murdoch along...
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syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks. it's good to see you both. >> few. >> woodruff: so we're just watching a tough situation in california. we've got another kind of a tough situation here in washington. mark, what about this ongoing stalemate over the debt limit? does it look likethey're going to reach an agreement and not breech the deadline? what do you think? >> judy, anybody who-- at this point is really just shooting in the dark. i am hopeful that they will. i think that the more likely scenario is that the senate works first. i think senator-- republican leader mitch mcconnell came up with something that was devilishly shrewd with his proposal to basically yield responsibility for the budget process, appropriation process from the congress and putting all the responsibility on raising the debt on the president it politically puts the blame there, in his judgement. gets by the possibility of the government closing down and avoids as he put it damaging the republican brand with a showdown or shutdown. and damaging
syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks. it's good to see you both. >> few. >> woodruff: so we're just watching a tough situation in california. we've got another kind of a tough situation here in washington. mark, what about this ongoing stalemate over the debt limit? does it look likethey're going to reach an agreement and not breech the deadline? what do you think? >> judy, anybody who-- at this point is really just shooting...
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when rupert murdoch and his son james were done, rebekah brooks who you were just watching, rebekah brooks was on the hot seat, and joining me live from london is michelle ckosinski, ad this day started off with rupert murdoch mobbed by photographers as he prepared to testify, and before we talk about rebeckah brooks and what she had to say, there was a lot of buzz on rupert murdoch being humbled by this, but not taking responsibility for what was happening with the company he owned. >> yeah, that was interesting. i mean, he said, yes, i'm in charge of this company, but this is an enormous company, and the "news of the world" is less than 1% of it all and i don't have that much involvement in the day-to-day workings of it and neither does my son here james. and they said basically they didn't know anything about this, and when they were informed that something bigger was going on, they did everything possible to help the police and they turned over all of the documents that they didn't know existed before, so it is a complex web who knew what when, and the murdochs saying they didn't know
when rupert murdoch and his son james were done, rebekah brooks who you were just watching, rebekah brooks was on the hot seat, and joining me live from london is michelle ckosinski, ad this day started off with rupert murdoch mobbed by photographers as he prepared to testify, and before we talk about rebeckah brooks and what she had to say, there was a lot of buzz on rupert murdoch being humbled by this, but not taking responsibility for what was happening with the company he owned. >>...
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the whole point was, if we can label our former bosses, rebekah brooks, andy coulson who are arrested, not criminal masterminds but engaged in a media empire where criminality was rif, if that media empire got david cameron elected as the british prime minister, that's a good story. >> i have a break coming up. since you mentioned rebekah brooks and andy coulson, both former editors of "news of the world," do you have any doubt that they knew phone hacking was going on at that paperer? >> i have no doubt whatsoever. piers morgan was also my editor, but in that time in 1994-'5, it wasn't illegal. you could sit outside someone's house and tap into their phone conversations and record all of it. and also look at their messages. i need to ask a lawyer actually, is it legal for a wife to hack into her husband's phone if she thinks he's cheating? about 10% of the population of britain have done that, too sgle well ooh keep our focus on journalists. paul mcmull land, good luck with the pub. >> thanks. >>> coming up on the second part of "reliable sources," debt talks collapse after news repo
the whole point was, if we can label our former bosses, rebekah brooks, andy coulson who are arrested, not criminal masterminds but engaged in a media empire where criminality was rif, if that media empire got david cameron elected as the british prime minister, that's a good story. >> i have a break coming up. since you mentioned rebekah brooks and andy coulson, both former editors of "news of the world," do you have any doubt that they knew phone hacking was going on at that...
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murdoch and rebecca brooks? >> all the details of the meetings and explain all of the conversations were appropriate and she could ask the members of her party to be equally transparent. >> does the prime minister join me in hoping that this is the end of the ever increasing rise of misconduct by police officers across the country? >> the police have to have an operation, have to have a relationship with the media, both at the top level to communicate with the police's right to do strategically, and at the operational level to help them with crime. we have to try to make sure they do not have an inappropriate relationship. >> prime minister, have you ever mentioned the word "bskyb" in the presence of rebecca brooks? >> does not raise serious questions about how the previous limit operated that members opposite thought that it a prepared for the prime minister to be brief on police matters? and the e-mails that were released, didn't show how professional his chief of staff is? >> i thank my hon. friend for puttin
murdoch and rebecca brooks? >> all the details of the meetings and explain all of the conversations were appropriate and she could ask the members of her party to be equally transparent. >> does the prime minister join me in hoping that this is the end of the ever increasing rise of misconduct by police officers across the country? >> the police have to have an operation, have to have a relationship with the media, both at the top level to communicate with the police's right...
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brooks has to answer. she's a former editor of "news of the world," hard-driving tabloid editor, editor of "the sun." the question is, why didn't she ask the questions, not just of the -- what was going on on her front page, but also the questions about the email traffic and the lone act of defense. and that should come out in the course of the inquiries in the next few months. >> rose: with that, thank youve. thank you, catherine. >> you're welcome. >> rose: pleasure you to haveyo. >> thank you. rose: zhang xin is here, thecef the country's largest real estate developers that has made her a billion nair. she's a humble woman that's self-made. she later founded sojo china with her company. the company went public in 2007. it is a remarkable success story. i'm pleased to have her at the table for the first time. welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: are you at allsurprisee to do this? >> i am. today i am. but, you know, of course, 20 years ago when i started, you know when i left china in 1980, who would
brooks has to answer. she's a former editor of "news of the world," hard-driving tabloid editor, editor of "the sun." the question is, why didn't she ask the questions, not just of the -- what was going on on her front page, but also the questions about the email traffic and the lone act of defense. and that should come out in the course of the inquiries in the next few months. >> rose: with that, thank youve. thank you, catherine. >> you're welcome. >>...
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-- syndicated columnist mark shields, "new york times" columnist david brooks. mark, tell us what's going on? >> jim, what you've just seen is the rupture of the summit. this had been a summit deal, involving the speaker of house, a republican and the democratic president of the united states. nobody else had been really party to it other than eric cantor, the republic house leader. but the democratic leadership, the house and the senate were not party to it. nor were the republicans in the senate. so it came down, he said-- he said break up and the time is now short. i mean the grand deal appears to be in shamables. and now the urgency is to raise the debt ceiling and get it done. >> lehrer: what do you think happened? >> shambles, a complete meltdown, apparently. i've never seen a presidential press conference with the president so angry in public. and you know, i sort of think he's maybe mostly right on substance. he laid out apparently in the next few hours they are he going to be laying out the details of what the white house offer was. there were a lot of
-- syndicated columnist mark shields, "new york times" columnist david brooks. mark, tell us what's going on? >> jim, what you've just seen is the rupture of the summit. this had been a summit deal, involving the speaker of house, a republican and the democratic president of the united states. nobody else had been really party to it other than eric cantor, the republic house leader. but the democratic leadership, the house and the senate were not party to it. nor were the...
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next to him is rebecca brooks the former ceo of news international. the former head, he was the one running the newspaper before her and then we come to the news of the world down here with the folks who were actually being questioned about this improper activity. here's the connection that the people are trying to establish in the questioning here. from him to him to him to her. this question. how how tight it is from where the bad things are going on. i didn't know anything about that. you know from many investigations and many organizations that are caught doing things that are wrong, investigators look at the connections often when there is not a business relationship and saying how do we connect the people and prove these people knew something even though they say they did not? beyond that structure of just this group here, other things have to be considered. another part of the castle, there is the news corp. board. 17 individual who is sit on the board of directors here this is what a lot of people are going to look at closely. the news corp. b
next to him is rebecca brooks the former ceo of news international. the former head, he was the one running the newspaper before her and then we come to the news of the world down here with the folks who were actually being questioned about this improper activity. here's the connection that the people are trying to establish in the questioning here. from him to him to him to her. this question. how how tight it is from where the bad things are going on. i didn't know anything about that. you...
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here is a little bit of rebekah brooks. >> rebekah brooks was invited six times a year to 10 downing street under both the former prime ministers. she has not been invited by mae. i have set out -- the great contrast is i have set out things i have in complete contrast to the party opposite. i can say this to the hon. gentleman, i have never held a slumber party or seen her in her pajamas. host: that, of course, was prime minister cameron from this morning talking about his relationship with rebekah brooks. she talked about her relationship with the prime minister yesterday. alex spillius. guest: as mr. cameron was saying, she has been friends not just with him, but previous prime minister gordon brown, and probably tony blair, too. his point was "it is not just me." she slept over at the official country residence one time when gordon brown was prime minister. but david cameron is prime minister now and he is very close to her. in the light of what we now know about what "news of the world closed what journalists were up to, people in britain are having a heart -- what "news of the
here is a little bit of rebekah brooks. >> rebekah brooks was invited six times a year to 10 downing street under both the former prime ministers. she has not been invited by mae. i have set out -- the great contrast is i have set out things i have in complete contrast to the party opposite. i can say this to the hon. gentleman, i have never held a slumber party or seen her in her pajamas. host: that, of course, was prime minister cameron from this morning talking about his relationship...
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expecting is for the scandal to go up through rebecca brooks who's the chief executive of news international to james murdoch and james murdoch himself many people say should step down and take a break. now take a look at some other stories from around the world at least and. explosion on a bus and the pakistani capital police suspect the blast was triggered by a faulty gas cylinder and ignited all injured passengers were taken to hospital but officials have warrants the death toll is likely to rise. french lawmakers have voted in favor of continuing the country's military operation even if this isn't was supported by the majority of the lower house of parliament french officials claim colonel gadhafi representatives have told them that nuclear is ready to discuss surrendering power stephen brown contributing editor of the front page online magazine believes the french are looking for an honorable way out of leaving . france who just recently called for the rebels to negotiate with gadhafi and so the bombing will stop as soon as the. the negotiating table that shows to me that nato is surren
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he defended rebekah brooks. he defended les hinton, the former dow jones ceo who also resigned last friday, and he said he had been betrayed by unname other employees. it was not overall an impressive performance. >> we mo this has to be costing news corp. millions. how much of a liability is it to keep rupert murdoch where he is right now? >> i don't know if the liability is to rupert murdoch but it is his leadership. i think he has to stay and use others as a human shield for as long as he can. he's been a liability in many ways if you look at the value of property for so many years. but when is news corporation going to get out and do the top to bottom investigation not just of their british publications and they're only doing that right now but, in fact, going worldwide? and until they do that they will always be behind the story and as long as he's at the helm and performing the way he did today, he will increasingly be a liability. >> what are your thoughts about strategy here? rupert murdoch is 81 years o
he defended rebekah brooks. he defended les hinton, the former dow jones ceo who also resigned last friday, and he said he had been betrayed by unname other employees. it was not overall an impressive performance. >> we mo this has to be costing news corp. millions. how much of a liability is it to keep rupert murdoch where he is right now? >> i don't know if the liability is to rupert murdoch but it is his leadership. i think he has to stay and use others as a human shield for as...
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operation has been arrested by police investigating allegations of phone hacking and rivalry rebecca brooks is the tenth person to be detained in connection with the scandal that's engulfed the now defunct news of the world it comes as prime minister david cameron admits he's held more than twenty meetings with murdoch executives in the past year murdoch is now desperately trying to rescue news cause crippling a crumbling reputation today the media mogul made a second apology for the phone hacking scandal he ready admitted serious wrongdoing on the pages of critics newspapers and the family of a murdered teenager whose voice mail was intercepted. lore and reports it's a watershed moment for the cozy relationship between britain's politicians and press. aide put it green media and. wouldn't own t.v. radio even the scariest when thought imitates life the long running simpsons takes a shot at its owner rupert murdoch aka montgomery burns in an episode broadcast apparently coincidentally this week. but it's not the only piece of timing in the extraordinary phone hacking case that seems to get m
operation has been arrested by police investigating allegations of phone hacking and rivalry rebecca brooks is the tenth person to be detained in connection with the scandal that's engulfed the now defunct news of the world it comes as prime minister david cameron admits he's held more than twenty meetings with murdoch executives in the past year murdoch is now desperately trying to rescue news cause crippling a crumbling reputation today the media mogul made a second apology for the phone...
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. >> warner: the fate of another former top "news of the world" editor rebekah brooks remains unclear. for now, she remains c.e.o. of the paper's parent company in britain, news international. there may be implications for murdoch's proposed $12 billion takeover of the cable television network british sky broadcasting as well. his news corporation already owns three other newspapers in britain and, in this country, "the wall street journal", "fox news" and the "new york post" among others. this afternoon, reports surfaced that the company might replace the sunday "news of the world" with another murdoch publication. its sister paper "the sun" -- published weekly and saturday-- could add a sunday edition. for more on this story, we turn to ned temko, a writer for the "observer" newspaper in london. ned, welcome back, thanks for being with us. so what was the thinking behind this dramatic decision to shut down this very profitable newspaper? >> well, the best description i've heard this evening is that this is the first newspaper in history to die of shame. but that's not strictly true.
. >> warner: the fate of another former top "news of the world" editor rebekah brooks remains unclear. for now, she remains c.e.o. of the paper's parent company in britain, news international. there may be implications for murdoch's proposed $12 billion takeover of the cable television network british sky broadcasting as well. his news corporation already owns three other newspapers in britain and, in this country, "the wall street journal", "fox news" and...
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but what i think david brooks underestimates is what it's going to take to pass this. not only through the house but also through the senate. it's going to require 60 votes in the senate. so it will take more than the president having a press conference or having a meeting. we need to come up with a package that can actually pass both branches of the congress between now and august 2. and i just frankly don't think tax increases partularly during a weak economic recovery, are likely to pass either the house or the senate. >> woodruff: we hear you, senator john cornyn, thank you very much. >> thanks, judy. >> ifill: next, taking desperate measures in cleveland to deal with a massive foreclosure problem newshour economics correspondent paul solman has the story, part of his ongoing reporting on the housing crisis and "making sense of financial news." >> reporter: in cleveland, ohio, someone's former home. since foreclosure, though, it's been stripped of anything you can sell, not even worth the price of the wood left behind. so down it goes-- an ever more common answer t
but what i think david brooks underestimates is what it's going to take to pass this. not only through the house but also through the senate. it's going to require 60 votes in the senate. so it will take more than the president having a press conference or having a meeting. we need to come up with a package that can actually pass both branches of the congress between now and august 2. and i just frankly don't think tax increases partularly during a weak economic recovery, are likely to pass...
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the same thing is happening with rebecca brooks. she's saying she's done nothing wrong. she's quite angry at having been arrested yesterday. and all this willçç gain in intensity at least for the next 48 hours until parliament goes into recess. >> ifill: prime minister cameron cut short his visit to africa and is coming back to prepare for tomorrow, this inquiry being conducted by parliament. what do we expect there? >> well, tomorrow will be extraordinary. there's two separate committees in the house of commons who will be interviewing sir paul stevenson. john yates. and then james murdoch, rupert murdoch's son, rupert murdoch himself, rebecca brooks,0oeÑ will be made for tv drama and will go on for hours and will all be televised live on the news channels here. that's day one. and then on wednesday although parliament was supposed to already have been in recess, as you say, david cameron has flown back early from a trip to africa for a special session at which he'll make a statement and answer questions. >> ifill: ned temko, we'll be watching every bit of it. tha
the same thing is happening with rebecca brooks. she's saying she's done nothing wrong. she's quite angry at having been arrested yesterday. and all this willçç gain in intensity at least for the next 48 hours until parliament goes into recess. >> ifill: prime minister cameron cut short his visit to africa and is coming back to prepare for tomorrow, this inquiry being conducted by parliament. what do we expect there? >> well, tomorrow will be extraordinary. there's two separate...